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SL Journal 9 (Ch. 21-22)
We have several interesting characters that show up, including Mistress Hibbins and the ship's captain. What new information do you learn about Puritan life? How did Chillingworth find out? Will he succeed?
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It seems, in Puritan life, that everyone in the town is intertiwined in some way and is always curious about what someone else is doing or what is going on in someone else's life. The fact that mistress hibbins knew something about Hester going in the forest also, shows just how curious everyone is. Also, these chapters show how the Puritans in these times still knew how to be festive and have fun. They weren't as gloomy as what Hawthorne says the later Puritans were.
I honestly am not sure exactly how he found out about them leaving together on the ship, but I have some suspicions that it may have to do with mistress Hibbins, the ship's captain, or some of the other people from the ship.
I don't know exactly, but I don't think he will succeed because I think Dimmesdale and Hester will somehow try to stop him. Someone will probably die in this process, or something terrible may come about.
Several issues arise form these two chapters of reading. The first is that there appears to be some inconsistencies in puritanical life. For Instance the sailors can do what ever they please and it is not shocking when a seemingly good person like Chillingworth is seen socializing with these people. On the other hand when a questionable land person, Mistress Hibbins, comes through the crowd even the average town's people fear to touch her. This is a little strange because no one has proof that the old woman is a witch but everyone can see the laws that the sailors are breaking. Also, I find it strange that Mistress Hibbins knows so much about the incidence in the woods. It makes me wonder if she was secretly at the meeting. The second issue that we learn about is Chillingworth's plans to ruin Hester and Dimmesdales' get away. Although I am not sure how he found out, I think that it was probably one of the sailors or Mistress Hibbins. As far as the success of this evil plan I am sure that Hester will come up with some way to ruin the scheme. These two conflicts have come to the forefront during these tow chapters and will be interesting to see resolved.
We learn in these chapters that the Puritans were not as boring as they seemed. They were very festive, like Mandie said, and they wore fancy outfits for such celebrations. I think it's interesting that they had a huge celebration for an election, because being as religous as they were, I would think that they would care more about religous celebrations. Mistress Hibbins creeps me out. How did she know about Dimmesdale and Hester in the forest? We also learn that she has been convicted as a witch and will be executed.
It is a mystery to how Chillingworth found out about the ship. During the celebration, he must have come across the ship's captain or something. I think he will succeed. As sick and twisted as he is (in my opinion) he will eventually get things the way he wants them. Nothing has really stopped him in the past.
If I lived during the Puritan times, I think I would go insane! Everyone is so concerned with what everyone else is doing, and their curiousity gets the best of them in even the smallest of situations. It seemed that the fact they took everything so seriously, they never knew how to have fun. In these chapters however, it portrays them as a little more than what we're used to. The Puritans are also very quick to judge, with the example of Mistress Hibbins. It is, however, rather creepy how much she knows about their encounter in the woods. Considering the fact that news travels very fast in this village, it isn't surprising that Chillingworth finds out about Hester and Dimmesdale's escape, nor is it surprising that he tries to ruin it. I do have faith in Hester to find some way to stop his evil plan.
Puritan life seems to be relatively gray or without life when compared to life in England. From what I understood, the puritans just get out of their normal obligations. Children get out of school and adults get a break from work. The english, on the other hand, have actual parties that go with the celebration including bonfires and such.
To tell the truth, i'm not sure, but my best guess would be one of the sailors. The ship will have many sailors on board, and who can keep tabs on all of them. He might have bribed one to give him information, or maybe even the captain.
I don't think he will succeed. Unfortunately, like Mandie, I believe that it will probably come at a cost to Hester, Pearl, and Dimmesdale.
lwmindPuritains really needed to learn how to mind their own business. It's great they were having a good time and loosening up a little bit in these chapters, but it's sad it's only on rare occasions. As nosy as the Puritians were it suprises me they didn't find out about Dimsdale by now. I'm not suprised Mistress Hibbins found out Dimsdale's secret, because if it was easy enough for a little girl like Pearl to figure out and also Chillingworth, it must not have been that hard to put two and two together. I'm also not suprised chillingworth found out about them leaving. He practically knows everything about them anyways, and the story has made it perfectly clear that he's a terrible sinner so it makes me wonder if he himself had been lurking around the forest that day. Chillingworth seems like the type of guy that wouldn't hesitate to sign the devils book. I think he will end up succeding due to the fact that Hester has already kind of given up hope and realizes she doesn't know Dimsdale as well as she thought, and because he's acomplished everything he's wanted thus far in the story.
I think that the puritans were all nosy little people. they all seem to know a lot about eachother and that is rather weird. but hey in a small town with no cable or satelite what else is there to do. i dont really know how chillingworth found out i am gunna assume, along with everyone else, that it probably has a lot to do with the ships captain. also it kind of bothered me that Mistress hibbin knows everything. she is just crazy. it will be a rather happy day when they hang her for being a witch. i hope that chillingworth won't succeed but i kind of feel like there is a strong possibility that he will because like katie said, nothing else has stopped him. but you know what. my superpowers wont let me go into the book to stop him so we will just have to see how Mr. Hawthorne wants things to be. woops now you all know that i am a superhero darn!
Puritan life, it seems, does have its own little moments of fun. The procession described, however, does not sound like it would be considered fun in any way today, which is purely Puritan. Other things we learn about Puritan life is that, since everything every day is so dull and dreary, people long for something new to gawk at, even if it is the same scarlet letter they've been gawking at for 7 years.
Now Chillingworth, who has discovered that Hester, Pearl, and Dimmesdale are leaving the country, has apparently pulled off the classic villain stunt of knowing exactly what is going on, much like Hannibal Lector. However, if a guess is to be made, I suppose he could have observed Hester talking to the ship's captain, or could have found the man in a pub (because, obviously, sailors frequent such places when on land) and overheard him talking about the new passengers, because, of course, the captain would have to be drunk. With Chillingworth planning to board the boat as well, I think Hester will decide to not do so. Perhaps eventually she will confront Chillingworth, who may, hopefully, receive some sort of punishment for the harm he has done to Dimmesdale before the tale comes to its conclusion.
In purtian life it seems that everyone is connected in one way or another. It seems that everyone is connected weather through buisness ties or through social ties. I have no clue how exactly he figured it out. i don't know if he had a lucky guess or if he asked the captain. I hope he does'nt succeed but i think that the author will throw us a crazy loop that no one will expect.
as everyone else said, the puritans were nosy people! maybe living under such strict puritan rules, the only entertainment they had was gossip and public gatherings. i think chillingworth found out through pure motivation of seeking revenge on hester. he has obviously turned into a really bad guy over the past few years, and probably used any way possible to find out. i have a feeling he will succeed in ruining hester and dimmesdale's happily ever after.
Puritan life, as we are shown in these chapters, is a lot like small town life. Anything that goes on is known by any person that wants to know and it is known pretty quickly. I'm not sure if there are a bunch of old ladies sitting around the pillory telling about everyone else's news or what, but somehow information travels quickly. The Puritans are also very festive, as a bunch of people have said already. It seems to me that the Puritans would be massive drunks if they were not so religious. If they get super pumped about an election, think what would happen if they won a state championship or something!?!?!?! ;) As for Mistriss Witchins....Hibbins....she is doomed and I'm thinking she is going to befriend Pearl before she takes her final walk. She is going to show Pearl how to kill everyone in the story just to tick all the readers off. Finally, Chillingworth is a freak, but I'm starting to like him more. He has that hard-nosed determination going for him. OK, so he is a little bit stalkerish and is taking things a little too far, but he knows what he wants and he is set on getting it. I hope he doesn't succeed and Pearl rips his face off, but we will just have to wait and see what happens.
I agree with Courtney H! It'd suck big time to be under your neighbors watch all the time like that! It's nice to see that they get to have some festive days, but that's still a pretty pathetic festival. I think the sailors are kind of cool, espeacially the captian. The main reason is, though, that they remind me so much of these other, really nice/cool characters I know from another book/series. I think the captian is an especially a cool person. He seems really nice and very caring of Hester and Pearl. Mistress Hibbins dumbfounds me. I know she's a witch, but does she have to know everything and always know that she's right! I'd love for her to be wrong sometime. Chillingworth dumbfounded me, too. I made me sooooo angry that he knew all about their plan and now he's spoiling it. My guess is one of the sailors he befriended told him that Hester and Pearl were leaving with them and he simply added the fact that Dimmesdale is likely to leave with them. Despite this, I'm still holding to my belief that Hester, Dimmesdale, and Pearl will still make it away without him. Not sure how it will happen, but I bet Chillingworth is going to be the character who dies...
It seems as though the whole town was full of nosy people but i supose they didnt really have a whole lot else to do. I honestly have no clue how Roger found out but it doesnt suprise me that he did. He seems to find out a lot of things whether he figures it out on his own or if he has a snitch. I didnt really like the captain much. i dont really know why but i just hve a feeling that he shouldnt be trusted. I hope Roger doesnt suceed but im guessing he will.
Just like small towns in the places like Nebraska, Puritans seemed to know everyones business. They are always worrying about whats happening in other peoples lives. They know everything you do and word travels fast. I have no clue how Dimmesdale found out, but Im pretty sure it was one of those darn sailors. I doubt Chillingworth will succeed. Hester is too much of a stud to be stopped. I bet Hawthorne throws in a couple deaths here and there just to make it worth reading, but Hester will prevail. Hopefully.
In the two chapters of our reading we learned, first, that Puritans could be pretty festive at times. Everyone in town has dressed up and gathered for election day. I agree with Katie that since they are so religious, they should care more about religious celebrations.
It's also odd that Mistress Hibbins knows so much about Hester and her meeting with Dimmesdale in the forest. It's possible that she was in the woods during their meeting.
We also discover that Chillingworth has found out about Hester and Dimmesdale's plans to escape on the ship, and that he plans to join them. I am unsure as to how he found out, but it's possible that he found out from Mistriss Hibbins or a crew member of the ship. I don't think Chillingworth will succeed because it doesn't seem likely that Hester, Dimmesdale, and Pearl will be floating off to their happy, new life with Chillingworth still following them and wanting revenge. Besides, who's to say they will even get on the ship anyway? There are still two chapters left and they probably aren't about a sea voyage.
Puritan life seems real boring and nosey. I really agree with what mandie said, everyone is so concerned on what is going on in everyone elses life. It is sickening. Mistress Hibbins is a shady character. She knows sort of what is going on with Hester and her situation. While I recognized that the Puritans are having parties, they just seem so far and few between. They have so many strict rules about what people can and cannot do. England has lots of rules too, but it is strange because they left England because of the strict rules and punishment, but they enforce the same thing.
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