Which character in The Crucible do you feel you most relate to? Why? If you were in a situation like the Witch Trials or the McCarthy Trials, what do you think you would do? Why?
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Monday, September 29, 2008
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How about no one reads my journal except Mrs. Svoboda cause It sucks.
ITS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE....
and I dunno how to fix it.
I feel that I most relate to Reverand John Hale... if I relate myself as born in past time... so I might believe in witchcraft.
(If I compared my contemporary self and went back in time it would be like "Witchcraft? pfft..lol" and prolly get hanged.
I think if there was such a large hysteria about, I would go into analysing it, witchcraft. Since that would be the only thing I would do, I would probabaly probe very deep into the problem especially after examining one cursed with witchcraft. (Like John Hale)
(I say that I possibly would do that because if I find an exploit in a computer... I would overanalyze, attempt to fix, read, lose life, die, anger, death, fix, repeat etc....)
If I was in the situation like the witch trials I would try to first calm people so they stop accusing eachother, I would then try to insert true information into the minds on identifying true witchcraft in attempt to fix the issue. Once the increase of accusations have lessened I would then try to save some poeple as a fix. More individuals would need specific instructions, so I would try to talk to, repeat things, anger, die, fix, and repeat process on others.
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Not believe it and possible get hanged....woot.
In The Crucible there are many characters, but the one I believe I would probably be able to best relate to would be Elizabeth. Elizabeth seems to be a strong, brave, independent woman, and fearless at times. I think she displayed great strength with her doubt in her husband about loyalty. I don't know if I could truely stick by my boyfriend or husband if he cheated/lied to me. She has great courage. Anyways back to Elizabeth and why I can truely relate...I think it is a good thing to be strong and stand alone in your own beliefs when others doubt you or put you down. I try to do that. And also how she would give up everything to follow her heart in the truth. Example-when she is taken because she is accused of being a witch and is fearless on the outside but a little scared on the inside (she hides her fears). I can be that way when I'm put in a situation where I may look tough on the outside but most of the time I think I am just a melting chocolate chip cookie on the inside. I think Elizabeth and I can relate because we share some of the same beliefs and may make similar choices in what to do in tough situations. Maybe not the same but in a way they I can relate. If I was in a situation like the Witch Trials or the Mccarthy Trials I think I would do exactly what Elizabeth did. I would stick to the truth even if it cost me everything. The truth is more important.
The tale of the Crucible is a story way differnet from any form of life I have known. This tale in a way is unbelieveable that such a thing could exist. Sadly things like this story happen every day. One character that struck me is Elizabeth Procter. This women is one person I can relate to in this tale so far. I believe she has good character traits. She expresses trust, individuality, faith, and truth. I can relate to Elizabeth because she has some similar values I do. She tries to believe in what she says and sticks to it. Although if everyone else is following something else she does not just switch her opinions because everyone else is doing it. Another trait that highlights her is trust/ a conscience. When she knew something was going on with her husband she stuck to her rights/she did not have self doubt. It appears she is a very strong willed character. If I was in that situation that would be so hard. It I was in time such as the Witch Trials or the McCarthy Trials I would stick to my beliefs and try not to believe something that everyone is saying. Just because things are spoken does not necessarily mean they are true.
I feel that I realate to Elizabeth the most, which I'm sure many girls will say as well. Elizabeth is a strong woman who knows what she wants. She is very knowledgable and suspects what happened between John and Abigail. Abby knows that what John did is wrong, but she is willing to give him another chance. John and Elizabeth show their love for each other and Elizabeth realizes that John made a mistake and is willing to do anything to make up for it. Like Chelsea said, Elizabeth Proctor hides her feelings to make herself seem tough in times of trouble. She isn't a fraid to put up a fight for something she believes in. By hiding her emotions, she also helps herself when being accused because she seems more comfident in her arguement. Nothing so far, seems to get passed this strong and courageous woman. This is why I can relate myself to Elizabeth Proctor. However, back then during the Witch/McCarthy Trials, I think I would give up without putting up too much of a fight. If I were being accused, I think I would go along with it because I know that no matter how much of a fight I put up.. I'll either die guitly, or live with the reputation of being a 'witch'. I think I'd rather live..
The person that I would mostly relate myself to would have to be Elizabeth Proctor. I would probably be suspected for doing odd things that women don't usually do like how she was reading and back then, that was "odd" for women to do. If I was ever put in a situtaion like that I would probably be like, oh yeah, I am a witch, and I'm the last one and if you kill me I'll kill you all :). haha well I'm sure that probably wouldn't have worked as well back then but I think it would be worth a shot lol. But really, I feel that the easiest way through would be to admit to being a witch, even if you weren't one. I'd rather be called a witch rather than being hanged in front of everyone.
honestly i have no idea...probly a combo of dif ones. everyone likes to say "yea i'll be on justice's side and boo the girls," including me, but i honestly don't know how i would react if i was in that situation. for the past years ive been struggling to stand up for myself and others, but sometimes i didn't, and i'm not sure its because its not worth it or letting it go would be a much simpler choice, rather than fight u no. how we look at things depend on what side we're on. i'm pretty sure if my friends did weird stuff i'd just laugh but other ppl i'd feel "weirded out." hmm i still haven't answered the ? yet...okay..
well if i was on the girls side i'd probly be abby, because i wouldn't just follow someone and go w/ her plan.. but if i was on the other side i'd probably be procter..idk why, he just popped in my mind.. i'm not sure if i'll be able to give up my reputation and all but i really wish i would, because i'm a HUGE morality person, even tho i'm not religious (don't kill me) there's a clear difference bt right and wrong..but i also could be danforth bc one can nv really tell who's right and who's wrong, maybe its the time period that made him believe the weird logic, but i like to say things to my parents that involve twisting things in a logical way to make totally non logical issues seem logical. (bad trans) definitely not elizabeth bc i would never care that much for a guy to risk my own life..marriage is just another way to restrain yourself (but then again i'm not really sure if i'm put in that situation, this is as of now) I might be the selfish parris caring for my reputation, or mary who gets won over by her evil friends, but i like living to much to be pressed to death, and would probably not be able to stand pain and confess if accused..yea i'm a horrible person..but at least i'm honest..or so i think... I'M TAKEN BY THE DEVIL! AHHHHHHHHHHHH~~~~~~~~~
(slowly...dies..o-u-t)
Well...I would probably relate to John Proctor...people will disagree and I would as well, but there are certain qualities that I believe to share with him. I think that I relate to him because I agree with some of his views. For example, John will not go to church anymore because Parris isn't preaching about God, but instead everything else ie. property, Hell, etc. In all seriousness, I wouldn't like to go to church if that stuff was all that was discussed. It takes away from the main purpose of going to church!!! Another characteristic I think I share with John is his views on witchcraft. I think the Proctors know the entire town is paranoid about things like that and they try to stay out of it. If I were to be him, I would just say "pfffft!!!" Witchcraft, although it makes a great story, it doesn't exist, except to those who are really paranoid about it...
I admire John for being strong in his beliefs.
As for what I would do in a trial situation, I would keep fightning for what I believed is right, unless of course things take a huge downhill drop then I would maybe not be as radical as I was. I would wait till I could safetly rebell more...kind of cowardly, but it sometimes being a coward is the bet thing you can do when you are fighting for your beliefs. I fight for what I think is right for not only myself, but for others as well otherwise that would be selfish, and I wouldn't have any help...then I would die......If I gave up, nothing would happen and the situation would stay the same. Even if the trials would be onesided, it never hurts to at least try.
i really like this journal thing, even tho i nv know what side i'm on, this makes me think about stuff i wouldn't otherwise and tell me how undecisive i am...but i like it, THANKS!
i would have to say that i relate most to Elizabeth Procter, like many others. She is a very strong and independent woman. She seems very down to earth and isn't afraid to stand up for what is right. She is not afraid to tell the truth. Elizabeth also shows loyalty and strength when she forgives her husband for cheating on her. She gives John a second chance, even tho she knew that he was cheating all along, and that takes courage. I think that Elizabeth and i have many traits in common, and i think i would have done the same she did. I would try to be strong and stand up for the truth, no matter what others say.
I relate to John Proctor the most because of the stand he took against the Witch Trials. I would choose to go against the Witch Trials but it could potentially put me in there direct line of fire. I would either go against them one hundred percent or leave the colonies. If I went against the Witch Trials and they accused me I would die before I would admit I was a Witch.
I don’t think I really relate to any one person in The Crucible. I have quality’s of different people. The characters I am like are the ones who don’t agree with the trials for example John Proctor or Giles Corey. I am like them because I don’t believe the way Salem is taking these trials is the correct way to go at it. I believe someone should have more evidence against them then a couple of girls who think they see spirits attacking them, to be hanged. Proctor and Corey know the whole town is paranoid and not thinking right. They are both logical in there thinking and try to see everything from all perspectives before accusing anyone. The last similarity I have with them is if there was someone I loved accused of witchcraft, then I truly believe I would do everything in my power to save them. I also believe I am like Sarah Good in the fact that I like to be alone a lot of the time and I would probably be accused of being a witch for that.
If I were in the position of John Proctor during the Salem Witch Trials then I would freak out. I wouldn’t be able to keep my cool like him if my wife were accused of being a witch with that kind of evidence. I would probably yell at the all the girls for pretending to be attacked by spirits and I would yell at the judge for believing all of this without any evidence what so ever. Then I would probably punch him in the face and I would be thrown in jail. After I get out of jail I will pack all my things and move to a far away town by myself (my wife would be hanged by then) where nobody knows me or what I did.
Wow that is a tough question!
I guess if i had to say i was most like a character it would be John Proctor (but in girl form). He recognized all of this talk of Witchcraft as being craziness. He was not afraid to speak his mind even though everyone else was afraid to go against the girls. He stood for what he believed and he put his name on the line to try and prove that Abby was lying. I believe that i would put my life/reputation on the line to get the truth out in the open.
If i was in a situation like the Witch Trials, i think i would stand up for my beliefs even if they were unpopuar. These people had some bizarre beliefs and they had to know that it was getting out of hand when the girls started accusing so many people of being a witch. I could understand one or two people being accused because they believed in that sort of thing, but when the numbers started reach 10, 20, 30... all in a matter of a week, i would have to say that there was something really wrong going on.
I definitely think that Reverend Hale is the person I most relate to, he is going through a time if uncertainty as to whether or not the people he has condemned to death are actually practicing witchcraft. I can relate to this uncertainty, because although I've never had to question whether or not I should kill someone, I have had to make a few difficult choices.
If I was in a situation similar to the witch-hunts back in the day, then I would most likely pack up and leave town. There really isn't much sense in staying around if you could be accused at any moment of being a worshipper of the Devil.
--So far it seems like most of the girls in this class are identifying with Elizabeth, and the guys are with Johnny-boy, so, being the rather contradictory person that I secretly am, I agree with the guys;(and some girls)((yay one who talks too much{is that Yinfu?}, p.p.r., and nikki!))I relate best to Giles and Johnny-boy. Or Johnny-man, but that sounds weird.
--Both Johnny-boy and Giles know the truth behind the witch trials, but they really have no solid, concrete proof, and they become more desperate to prove themselves as time wears on. If I were in a situation like this, I would try to be rational, but get more and more flustered as things got worse, and I would eventually become frantic and then go completely nutso, crazy, cuckoo! I admire Johnny-boy's perseverance, but totally understand his eventual breakdown, and I would definitely pull a Giles on em, but instead of adding more weight I'd say something a bit more current such as bite me, up yours, F@#% you!(the rest is at your own disgression and completely up to your imagination)
--I'm really fired up about this story and think it's utterly ridiculous that something like this could have happened. Is anyone else as furious as me? I mean, my sticky notes are not exactly something I'd want Mrs. S. to read right now, bcuz they're rather...um,..we'll call them 'passionate' and 'colorful'.
--I'm going to bed now to relax and not be so p.o'd. Night-night!
I think I can most relate to Rebecca because she saw something wrong and she was willing to speak out against it. Unless you guys don't pay attention in class, you all know that I have plenty of opinions... :) ...When I see something wrong (*cough Sarah Palin cough*) I am willing to speak out against it. I'm just kidding about Sarah Palin!! ;)
If I found myself in a situation like the Salem Witch Trials, I would hope that my moral sense of right and wrong would not collapse. Standing up to your peers is really difficult, especially if there is an easier way out. I would definately try to take the high road and do the right thing, though. This is because I have read plenty of stories of people who stood back and never did anything. Doing nothing is the same thing as justifying wrong actions. I want to be the one to do something and maybe save someone while I'm at it!
You know, this is the way world peace could get started. Right now, it's just an idea, but if you have many people speak out against violence, world peace could happen...
I would say I most relate to John Proctor, for both good and bad reasons. He is a man that tries to live life by his own morals and is painfully being persecuted by his peers because of it. I'm not saying I can directly relate to this, because I've never had my life threatened. But I can definitely share his feelings of uncertainty towards society. I've experienced moments such as his, when you relalize that logical thinking is totally lost on the majority of people. It's a sad fact, but one thats becoming more prevalent nowadays. I also like to consider my self a fairly honest person, and I admire that quality in Proctor. He can withold his principles even when his life is in danger. Proctor kind of has a way of getting himself in way over his head without meaning to, like he did in the trial. I know the feeling of getting involved in something ridiculous accidentally, and then seriously struggling to get out. Jon Proctor is living in a world of paranoia and irrationalism, where his beliefs are constantly being undermined by a vengeful society. I can somewhat relate to this, on a much smaller scale of course.
Ughhh...It takes me way too long to organize my thoughts, I think I need some Ritalin.
Well, okay. This is a fun one. Like eric said, I don't know if there's any one person that I can relate to. They are all so different, it's hard to find a lot of overlaps in character traits.
First, I'm kind of like Mary Warren. She went against the girls she had been in cohorts with, and even though it was hard to continue to speak her mind, she did it anyway. I'm not really one to start accusing people of witchcraft (except for the creature that hangs from the ceiling and tries to bite my jugular), but sometimes I do my own thing because I think it's right. I do a lot of 180 degree turns in my mannerisms because I realize that I screwed up or that I'm tired of puting on pretenses.
Okay. Another person I can find myself relating to is John Proctor. He has a different mindset than most other people in the town and is okay with them knowing it. However, when his thoughts and actions cause other people harm, he tries to do whatever he can to fix it. I'm not sure I could be like him the way that he completely ruins his name for his wife, but I'm willing to make sacrifices for others that are close to me.
Now, if I was stuck in a situation like the witch trials, I'm not sure what I'd do, but I think I'd claim my innocence until the end. I believe that I would have people backing me if they knew that I was innocent.
Yeah. This one was hard. And I'm sorry it's confusing.
First off, I don't relate to anyone in the Crucible. However, since I'm forced to pick someone, I'd have to say John Proctor. During the time of the witch-hunts, tension between neighbors and friends was strong because they didn't know if they were the next to be accused. I'm like Proctor in that I would've recognized how stupid this all was. I would've started to spread word about the reality of this situation because it's dumb to think someone is a witch merely based on family deaths or skin marks.
Sorry this sucks.
Wow... I really don't think i'm like any of the characters and i'll tell you why.
Mr Parris is a self centered man who only cares about his popularity with the people and moving up with his job.
Abigail is a power hungry girl who wants to destroy a poor woman because of jealousy. She is also ruining so many other people's lives by saying they are witches.
Betty and Mary are scared girls who like to feel in charge so they do what ever Abigail tells the to do. They are also condemning innocent people to death just because they want to.
Mr. Proctor is a man who doesn't believe anything the girls say and is very angry about all that is happening. But overall, it is kind of his fault this whole thing started. If he wouldn't have had an affair with Abigail, she wouldn't be so jealous and trying to get rid of his wife and the other people.
Mr. Hale is a naive man who believes everything that his books and the girls are saying about witches.
So as you can see, I really don't think I 'm like any of these people. I'm a kind person that doesn't believe what everyone tells me. I am independent and I would never purposely hurt an innocent person. I am educated and use my knowledge to help people. So i'm not really like any of them.
Sorry if I forgot anyone!
Hmm...okay besides the whole cheating on his wife thing, I think I relate most to John Proctor (yeah, I guess I kinda like him now...). Anyway, he sees through the witchcraft craze and analyzes the whole situation rationally. He realizes almost immediately that Abby is making everything up. It would take a lot of guts to throw your reputation out on the table like that, but I would hope I would do the same if I were in that situation. He also believes that you can pray anywhere, and at anytime. You don't have to be kneeling at an altar. John stands up for his beliefs and fights for his rights (to partay). If my beliefs and rights were taken away, I would fight for them, too. I thinkif I were placed in a time of racism or extreme prejudice, I would see through the mask and realize that commies/blacks/etc...are still people, just like everybody else.
J-Straw, out.
Just like many of my classmates, i feel as if i don't relate to any of the characters completely. however, i do share some of the same views as John Proctor. he realized the the whole town was completely paranoid about catching the witches, so he stayed out of the drama. eventually i would probably go along with it so i wouldn't be accused. if i was, i would have said 'sure whatever, i'm a witch' and then left town. i really don' t think i would have fallen for the witch-hunt thing because it seems so improbable.
In the Crucible I believe I would most reflect Elizabeth. She is a strong woman with her own opinions. I do, however, believe that she is stupid for not leaving her cheating husband. (sorry females I don't think that we should support him even if he "felt bad"... he is only sorry because he was caught... and he ony told Elizabeth because she would find out anyhow. If he loved her he never would have done it)
Anyhow... Elizabeth is brave when she is acused of being a witch. She shows no fear and I believe that it is best if one shows no fear when confronted with a scary situation. It shows that the person has nothing to be afraid of. Yay for strong women!
As I said I relate most to Elizabeth.
love,
Sonja aka Ajnos aka Aj
Okay, I'm going to share this tomorrow, but I found this quite funny and it reminded me of our class. and i'm just too lazy to write it down.
Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane.
- Philip K. Dick
K so i definately forgot to do this journal last night but im gonna do it now. I relate most to john proctor. He seems to be the most levelheaded person in the whole town as the hunts erupt. Not only does he know where he stands and doesn't follow the crowd he makes his beliefs known to all. John seems to speak his mind no matter who it will offend which i tend to do on a pretty regular basis as well. I also think that he is the only person employing any logic what so ever to the ideas of witchery. The second person who i can easily relate to is Hale for many of the same reasons. The only difference is that Hale is interested in helping +the people and l,istening to their side. He wants to get the truth out and save the innocent rather than follow along with this ludchrist idea.
Note: I HATE ABBY and PARRIS!!!
I would relate to John Proctor because i dont believe in witches and i would go against the court and the unfairness of everything. If i was at the witch trials i would prbly be one of the people blamed because i would not stand for the way the court acted and i would speak against them.
i just realized what a HUGE hippocrite i am..i like ur ?'s yet i don't...i'm sooo undecisive...proably be one of those people still changing majors at age 52,000 (currently at 50,017) and also i think i forgot to answer the second part of the ?, so depending on what side i'm on, i'll do dif things..on the "evil" side, i'd be blinded and thing we're doing a great thing, if i was the accused, i'd feel soo innocent and helpless, but if i was so religious i'd think i'm really a witch i just don't know it, and then if i was one of the accusers i'd be happy to get enemies out of the way and have what i want and eventually take over the universe, which i plan to do anyway...so i'm guessing i'm better off on the evil side. oh and if i was family or friend of the accused i'd either die w/ them (by getting in trouble w/ the court) or just be a chicken and watch them die and cry then later get over it and find new friends
Alrighty... I think i most relate to John Proctor. He was very firm in his beliefs right to the end and chose what he knew was right over protecting himself although he knew it would cause him death. I honestly think I would stick to the truth. If that meant me hanging, than fine, but i would rather live a short life as an example to others and know that they look up to me rather than living a long life where one of my greatest trials would be living with myself.
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