Monday, December 1, 2008

Paper Comments Questions Dec. 1-5

Ask away--time is ticking down!

84 comments:

Anonymous said...

yay i'm the first, though you're probably tired of seeing my posts

``can we put a transition in the thesis? like say transition then the theme?

``Each child's personality gives way to his unique reasoning. his meaning the child, would that be ok?

``if i split a subpt into 2 paragraphs i still need a concluding sent and open sent bt rt?

``i cite a quote in a sent and then in the next sent say the character continues.... do i cite it again? (the same pg #)

``last one: my subpoint about how bc you only have an outsider talk every once in a while, the reader is sucked into the bundrens' view and thinks its normal, but then the outsider comes and its like WHAT WAS I THINKING??? THEY'RE WEIRD! i don't really have any source that says that, is that ok?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Yinfu--
#1--transitioning into your thesis is fine.

#2--Yes, you still need to wrap up each section and transition with a new topic sentence like always.

#3--Without seeing it in front of me, I'm going to say yes.

#4--that's fine--that's your own interpretation!

Anonymous said...

ok so how do i cite a internet source? like im using cliffnotes but i dont no how to cite it?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Tink--use the first main word of the site title, which is probably your book title, and put it in quotation marks. ("Age" 55)

Anonymous said...

great! thanks! also, i'm having trouble with the conclusion paragraph..so i have to start out with the thesis..so then there would be a para. bt the last one and the last factor for transition. and then that paragraph would tie hte 3 factors together so i can state the thesis? does the order i say them matter?
ex transition para:
factor 3
factors 1 and 2
how the 3 factors together make the novel do what it does
it presents the theme
conclusion paragraph starting w/ thesis.then 3 factors again..would that be too repetitive?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

YinFu--we'll talk about conclusion paras tomorrow--thanks for reminding me. There are some alternatives that don't sound so repetitive.

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

My thesis is very similar to my attention getter (I think) is that fine, my paper seems "more-centered" or sounds that way if they are similar...

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Adam--your attention getter really shouldn't be similar to your thesis, because your thesis should be the last thing in the paragraph. I'll have to see it to know for sure though.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Wednesday comment for Adam--

I found your outline. You turned it in with your lit circle stuff for some reason, that's why I couldn't find it before. I'll give it back to you tomorrow. Also, you turned your concert report in with your lit circle stuff today. I gave it to my husband.

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

ugh, another epic fail point accumulated this year.

was there anything of importance like my social security number, card numbers, bank accounts and paypal accounts or something in another lit circle stack back in the time.

ty for finding it

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Adam, didn't see anything else of importance =] You're ok for now.

Anonymous said...

Can I bring in my first point again tomorrow morning and have you look over it? I changed my thesis and so obviously changed some stuff in that point. Please? Thanks.

toaut-eipc fail at typing toast.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Guess who--of course you can! See you then!

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

you also had an epic fail on spelling eipc fail

I threw my laptop to the floor in frustration as I have the inability to write research papers. Then I realized hey look, another weekend repair project infront of me as I knocked the already broken internal heatsink out of place again.
I should of been asleep 2 hours ago to prevent another day of me hating everyone (today I shoved one of my better friends into the wall)

But I had this urge to read rasin, and im still awake, therefore I will be hating everything and everyone again tomorrow.

I just realized that when I was typing factor two, it starts off good... BUT then it smothers and blends and becomes similarishly factor one, and without the extensive part its not long enough. What can I do, besides change it (Murrys arrogance, the nurses power) they get too close.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Adam, I'll have to look at it tomorrow. I can't really tell without looking at your paper.

Anonymous said...

This paper is eating me alive.

I don't believe I will have a passing grade when we get through with these.. along with any sleep or life. blahhhh

Anonymous said...

is naturalism capitalized?

Anonymous said...

ok so im probably the only person in thE HISTORY OF RESEARCH PAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that has 2 people with the same last name and the fisrt important word is the same too!!!!!! what do i do :(

wv. proxide-chem anyone??

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

When we turn in papers, will you ask of everything we have that relates to the paper, notecards, sourcecards, amt of life lost etc.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Eric--it's not.

Adam--Go to the second main word

(Walker, "Time Flies" 53)

(Walker, "Time Waits" 92)


Outline, paper, works cited. That's all.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Sorry--That should have been to Eric, then Megan and then the last bit to Adam!

Anonymous said...

Is the works cited supposed to be typed out for tomorrow? I only wrote it...

and is it possible for me to get help with one of my sources. I'm confused with it. Either second block or lunch. It shouldn't take too long. I know you don't want me to miss class but we are only doing orals, so if I wait until I'm done with mine, then I'll only be missing other people's orals which isn't bad.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Marisa--it is supposed to be typed. That way I know for sure where the corrections need to be. Come in at lunch and I'll help you-it shouldn't take too long.

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

So if we give part of the paper tomorrow when do you think we would have it back?

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

If I type something from source E, then something to source D, C and the back to E, do I have to recite all of them?

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

Ok I think I'm starting to feel a little more comfortable with 69 new notecards) cause it takes only 25 percent of the time it used to to write a page now.
and
I actually just ate dinner just now.
and
I had another question that I forgot, actually why the effing heck am I even posting this for, I know you will not answer cause its almost 5 in the freaking morning omg.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Adam,

If I get part of your paper today, I'll have it for you on the Sunday work day.

If you switch sources, yes you have to recite them.

Anonymous said...

conclusion: would it be a far stretch to tie in that ppl are blinded by love like the bundrens are blinded by their own thoughts?

also, i want to say that the outsiders are more objective than those involved. would that be okay? and what's another way to say outsiders?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

YinFu--I think it's perfectly acceptable to tie that in. As for your other question, my brain's not wired for that right now (long day!) but there are some great online thesauri!

Anonymous said...

Outcasts or exiled? I don't know, Yin lol. Okay.. so i've been trying to kick this paper's butt. Anyway. When we come to the school tomorrow, do you think I could get on to my account somewhere to e-mail my works cited to myself? I forgot to do that thursday.

Anonymous said...

Charlotte Perkins Gilman uses Herland to illustrate that humans do not interact with each other based on being a human, but by gender.

k does this sound stupid??

wv:tringle

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Keegan--we should be able to do that, just don't forget to remind me!

Megan--love the concept, just need to work on the wording some more.

Anonymous said...

my printer was freaking out yesterday..so if i don't get it to work can i email and print it at school 2m?

Anonymous said...

is there a requirement for long quotes?

if there's two pages cited, do i put them in the order they appear in the sentence or in numerical order?

Anonymous said...

are page long paragraphs too long? i can't split them bc its all one idea

Anonymous said...

what is another way to say roll your eyes at or shake your head like omg i can't believe they did that?

Anonymous said...

hey i was just working on my paper trying to get it finished and i ran into a problem...

i forgot how to do a long quote. do i indent 1" or .5" and do i do it on both sides or just the left. also, my quote is from my book so when i am siting the author do i do the character or Alice Walker?

your help is much appreciated!!

Mrs. Svoboda said...

YinFu--you can print at school tomorrow, not a problem.

Not sure what you mean by a requirement for long quotes, but it needs to be a quote that runs four full lines or more. I'm not going to require a certain number of long quotes, though.

If there are two pages cited, put them in the order in which you mention them in the paragraph.

Page long paras. are too long--even if it's one idea, there's probably a good place to split it up.

Not sure what you meant by your last one...

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Nikki--long quotes are tabbed twice on the left side and then run to the right margin.

Mention the character in the lead-in to your quote, and cite Walker.

Hope that helps!

Anonymous said...

Thank you that does help, but i am going to have you look at it tommorrow just in case.

i tried googling how to do it but there were so many different ways!!

English is stupid!!!(i hope that comment does not effect my upcoming grade) :)i didnt mean it; im just frustrated

Anonymous said...

mkay thanks!

«¬ ĄđąM ~» said...

Ok for long quotes I glanced at HE-II's paper and saw that I pushed the ruler 1 in. In. They all have the "As blah blah states" and "This dude said" and "Guy 15 says"

Just noted this, they all boring as crap.

Does the lead in have to be that way or can it be an example of what is done. Then start long quote. instead of "Guywithhair 999 says"

O yes it is 2 AM, but I cannot sleep as I have screwed myself and my biological clock, I have pretty much slept the day of Saturday for making up not sleeping at all, so it's normal awake time for me...

Anonymous said...

im almost finished but i have another question (hopefully my last).

is it okay to have a swear word in a quote or should i put *s in brackets instead?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Adam, the lead-in doesn't have to be that way, but you do have to set up the situation, especially if you are talking about the novel. You need to give the reader some context so s/he knows what purpose the quote serves.

Long quotes are tabbed twice on the left side. Don't know what the exact measurement is, that's just easier.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Nikki,
It's up to you, whichever you feel comfortable with. I'm not going to dock you if you do include a swear word in a quote, but if you don't feel comfortable including it, use the asterisks in brackets.

Anonymous said...

okay so i am trying to do my conclusion and i dont want to be boring so i am trying to do the non-summary conclusion, but if i relate the theme back to another novel or whatever does it have to be one that pretty much everyone has read. like does it have to be a classical book or can it be contemporary? :S

Anonymous said...

i just had another idea! is it alright for me to relate my thesis to a person like oprah winfrey?!?

Anonymous said...

oh and if i do use oprah in my conclusion do i need to site the information? is it okay to have to site information in the conclusion or is that a no-no? ugh! this is so stressful!!

Anonymous said...

what does Ed. stand for on the work cited page?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Eric--Ed. stands for editor. You need to have that in front of the editor's name.

Anonymous said...

Okay....
If we turn it in Tuesday, could we have like half-extra credit?

Please?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

I'll have to think about it...

Anonymous said...

Ooohhh...okay I'm not gonna pressure you. :P

JWVOTD
consopet (?)

Anonymous said...

If I'm writing about the 4th wave of immigration and i looked up info about it, do i need to cite it?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Jake--if it's not basic info that most people would know, you will.

Anonymous said...

How much do you take off if my paper stops on page 8 put it's only halfway down the page... :)

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Kay--I do take off some....I'd go back and see where you can add some explanation, that's usually where you can add some length.

Anonymous said...

okay thank you! ahh i'm almost done..this feels so good! haha

Anonymous said...

why do i not feel relieved upon finishing my paper??

Anonymous said...

uh I don't suppose you could help me find a page....I'm trying to look for the conversation that Amory has with Darcy about being a "personage" and I can't seem to find it....I fail....

Anonymous said...

nevermind.....I fail again....

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Sorry Dan, can't help you with that one... :(

Anonymous said...

ok now I can't seem to find a description of any of the guys of girls....

Overachiever



Normal




Below Average




Sucking




Fail





Epic Fail-Dan

Anonymous said...

ok so I found Personage, but I'm not 100% sure about how this connects to Amory....

a person whose actions and opinions strongly influence the course of events

so his actions and opinions influence what happens to him in the novel right? Darcy says it "collects" does that mean it gets stronger? or what?

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Dan--you are not failing. RELAX!!! You don't have to get this done tonight. I repeat, you do not have to get this done tonight.

I would assume Darcy is referring to an increase, at least that's what I can gather from what you've written.

Anonymous said...

okay. for the ending of a long quote.. does is look like this:
...Jessa hates research papers." (Newby 17)

or this:
...Jessa hates research papers."(Newby 17)

is there a space after the quotation mark?

wv- curvers

Anonymous said...

yeah that whole saying that you hate research papers but love them...yeah why does that work!?

I'm trying to tell myself that the paper is due tomorrow so last minuet panic will kick in...it works!!!

"A personality is what you thought you were, what this Kerry and Sloane you tell me of evidently are. Personality is a physical matter almost entirely; it lowers the people it acts on - I've seen it vanish in a long sickness. But while a personality is active, it overrides 'the next thing.' Now a personage, on the other hand, gathers. He is never thought of apart from what he's done. He's a bar on which a thousand things have been hung - - glittering [glittering...heh] things sometimes, as ours are; but he uses those things with a cold mentality back of them."

right now I have: Fitzgerald’s “personage” is a distinct, noteable person who’s ideas and actions influence his life.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Jessa--always a space after the quotation marks.

Dan--who knows. It's a weird love/hate relationship =]

Mrs. Svoboda said...

And Dan, I think that sounds good.

Anonymous said...

we aren't going to get docked if we still use the old fashion conclusion paragraph, right?

Anonymous said...

would it be possible to give you a rough draft or pieces tomorrow, or Tues., and get it back???

I would need it before Wed. I guess....or I could put it on a jump drive and retype what needs fixed on Wed. (maybe)

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Jessa, you won't, but I think you'll find the other kind actually easier to write.


Dan, I'm not going to promise anything. I might be able to get through it, I might not.

Anonymous said...

when citing sparknotes in the paper would it look like this:

...I hate Edgar Allan Poe" (Short 5).

the article name is Poe's Short Stories and there is no author. i can't really use the name Poe again because i use his book.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Jessa--put Poe's in quotation marks ("Poe's" ) because that's the first word of the article title. The quotation marks differentiate it from Poe the author.

Anonymous said...

Would I put the quotes like this?

either “a slicker” or “a big man,"

or the comma after the quote?
I'm trying to include the slicker/bigman philosphy with how Amory sturggles to find a distinct contrasting quality in the student body.

I don't have to cite where I got slicker and big man do I? and explaine it.

Anonymous said...

sorry, i'll stop bugging you after this..

is it orang-outang or orangutan? in the book it is orang-outang, but is it spelled different now?

Anonymous said...

one more thing..
what is the maximum number of pages? i am almost at 13.

Anonymous said...

I think it's 15...

Anonymous said...

i finished it!!!!

Anonymous said...

If one of my sources is quoting my research book, can I just use that quote and then cite it as that source? Or fo I have to cite it from my actual book? Because there's a lot of quotes from my book I want to use, but then I don't get any of my other sources in.

Anonymous said...

so, I think i'll actually get in the page limit of the paper. surprisingly.

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Don't know how much this is going to help any of you out this morning; I went to bed!

Jessa, 15 pages is the max. In the quotes, use Poe's original spelling, in the analysis, use today's.

Dan, comma before the quotation marks. If those are your phrases, no citation is necessary.

Marisa, you need to quote things from the book from the book. What you quote from the other sources should be the analysis of those quotes, not the quotes themselves.

Anonymous said...

aww man!! But have perfect ones from my book to use, but then I have none from my sources..

Mrs. Svoboda said...

Marisa, you should have commentary or analysis on those quotes in your sources. Use that.